And, oh yes, we need to close every ride that has a height restriction and every roller coaster because everyone in the family can’t go on it, as well as many other places at WDW.

Brian: I don’t even know where to begin on your comments. This is not segregation, but in your view so would a lot of other things like the bars and clubs where you have to be 21 to enter, the tours where many of them you have to be 16 to go on, how about the rides that have height restrictions, hotel rooms that only allow 4 people to stay in them, hot tubs that don’t allow infants.

The bottom line is that disney is doing what is best for “their” business and the one thing most people forget is that WDW is private property, so they can do what they want.

segregation— not really gone its just been masked to look okay.

If parents are not teaching their children decent, civilized table manners,they should refrain from taking them to a high end restaurant, spoiling the experience to the rest of the paying patrons.

After my last stay, I almost wish there were more no-kids-allowed restaurants. The park itself has something like 300 restaurants (table service and otherwise) on the property. There’s no reason for parents to be taking their kids to a $125 a plate dinner when their kids probably want to eat hot dogs and ice cream. Hell, I wish they’d keep kids out of most of the high end establishments. I can say that last September my meal at Jiko was less enjoyable than it would have been if there hadn’t been a little brat on heelies gliding around the place and screaming at his parents that he was bored.

This move makes perfect sense to me. It’s not really taking anything away from the kids, because as others have said, V&A isn’t a place most kids would feel welcome at anyway. And it’s adding something for the adults. It makes good business sense for Disney to attract all sorts of guests, not just those with kids.

Second, Walt wasn’t above building ‘private’ spaces in his parks. His plans for Disneyland had special hidden dining rooms in the Red Wagon Inn and later at Club 33.

Walt’s frequently recounted design to have an experience where the whole family could have fun together came from his days in Griffith Park watching his daughters ride the carousel while he sat on a park bench. And yet there is a carousel right smack in the middle of Fantasyland. In fact, it’s the primary Weenie for that land visible through the castle as you approach via Main Street. One of the last attractions Walt greenlighted was Space Mountain. He knew that would have a height limit effectively preventing some kids from riding with the rest of their families. So obviously Walt didn’t mean for every attraction, every ride, every experience to be available to all members of the family.

Therefore stop dragging Walt into this.

And I’m calling bullshit on your final assertion that adults with no children should stay away from the parks. One of Disney’s largest businesses is the Wedding & Honeymoon business. I promise you a healthy portion of that is childless. Disney built a place that entertains the child in all of us.

John